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Patricia

I love the way we can read your heart through your words, Alan! Thanks for such thoughtful, honest insights.
You said, "If we have no objective, transcendent standards then equality and inclusiveness are as good values as any." And I think you hit the nail right on the head! Our society has thrown out transcendent standards.

You also said, "The advocates of gay marriage are quite justified, it seems to me, in complaining that many more sermons have been preached lately against homosexual practice than against greed. These advocates are by no means above reproach, but why indeed should they be singled out when the planet is groaning under the weight of Western consumerism and the world's only superpower used false pretences to start a war?"

I've been thinking a lot recently about the animosity between the gay community and much of the Christian community. And I've come to the conclusion that one of the reasons we tend to be so at odds is simply this: one side looks at something and calls it sin, the other calls it good. How can there ever be reconciliation between the two where there is something so fundamental that divides us?

I suspect if there was a movement to label greed or gossip or lying "good" and to celebrate such practices and to celebrate those who openly engage in them, there would be strong resistance from the Christian element to that as well. And if there were curriculums being introduced in the schools that taught that such behaviours were normal and to be admired and nutured, (and maybe even that taught the correct techniques for lying and gossipping, etc.), and if there was an annual parade during which gossips and liars and greedy folks were hailed and honoured, well, I think you might even get Christians protesting in the streets! And if there was a statue erected in memorial to someone who was remarkable for no other reason than that he was a liar, it might even inspire a few outraged letters to the editor! ;-)

While my example is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, it's probably not entirely far fetched, for I think more and more we're seeing sin being called good.

So what's the answer?

Of course, the answer today and tomorrow is and always will be the same as it always has been. The answer is Jesus.

He is truth and love and light. And only as His light illumines our souls can we see the truth of our sinfulness. And only as we repent of our sin, and allow Him to work in us to purify us from all our unrighteousness, will we His very body here on earth, be able to love our neighbour as we ought.

Does that mean our neighbour will always be receptive and open to the love of Christ? Of course not. But I'm guessing more folks are open to His love than to our condemnation.

Sandy McMurray

Wise stuff, Alan. Thanks for being real, even when it's hard.

ml123

I have never lived a homosexual lifestyle, but I think at one time I would have been capable of it. Your honesty and bright light of Christ shining from you humbles me, Alan. May I surrender ALL to Christ as you have.

frank

You wrote:
But orthodox voices have been misheard in many cases. The identification is sometimes so tight, that is, between gay identity and gay behaviour that criticism of the latter is heard as an attack on gay people themselves.

That is a lie. When he was a Cardinal, Benedict XVI wrote that anyone who publicly identified as gay can be assumed to be engaging in homosexual sex or in favor of changing your Church's doctrines against it. Therefore, he endorsed discrimination in housing, employment, military service, health insurance, etc. I was a celibate gay Catholic then, but after reading that letter, which said that if I were murdered for being gay I would have only myself to blame, I left the Church.

After so many decades of being treadted as an enemy of the Church, I've decided to accept the role and play it to the hilt.

God damn Benedict.

The Sheepcat

Frank, please see my response in a new post.

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